FOIA for
Poseiden P-8A November 20, 2023
Kanehoe Bay crash
software certification information


First posted
Thursday December 7, 2023 10:42
Updated
Monday January 22, 2024 13:25
Thursday January 11, 2024 13:22

Hello Chief of Naval Operations, DNS-36
2000 Navy Pentagon
Washington, DC 20350-2000
usn.ncr.dns.mbx.don-foia-pa@us.navy.mil

1. This is a Freedom of Information Act request for
software certification information for software used
on Poseiden P-8A which crashed on November 20, 2023
into Kaneohe Bay.

2. c/c++ autopilot software technologies use
Boeing 737/800 airplanes?

c/c+ and Linux Mint apparent used in two 737 MAX
airplanes which crashed.

P-8A is a Navy version of the 737/800, we read on Internet.

3. Reason for this FOIA Boeing hardware engineers'
standards limited embedded controller software modules
code length to no greater than one page for
certification edibility.

Certification definition:
The action or process of providing someone or
something with an official document attesting
to a status or level of achievement.
If the code modules are longer than one page,
then they may be too complex for certification evaluation?

Code length limitation can be traced to 1966
and after the Boeing 767 Software Certification Policy
publishes in 1980.

4 Documents requested:
A. Copy of the US document accepting delivery of the
Vinson Kaneohe P-8A.

B. Copies of Properties in Linux, Windrows or
equivalent software development tools of all
folders and files of Kaneohe P-8A software at
time of delivery to the US Navy

C. Copes names off all subroutines/procedures/ and
main code along with certification
documents for each whenever an update/upgrade is

made.

Copies of verified statement if no certification
document exists.

D. Copies of a verified count of mumber of lines of code
in each subroutine/procedure and in which
computer language was each written whenever an
update/upgrade is made.

5. Copies of the Kaneohe Poseiden P-8A autopilot switch
wiring diagrams.
A Copies of Properties which contain name and size of
all software subroutine/procedure/modules with revision
symbols and dates which have read access to the
autopilot switch.

a. Copies of all update/upgrades notifications to the
    Kaneohe Poseiden P-8A autopilot software.
   
b. Copies of all update/upgrades software certification
     to the
     autopilot Kaneohe Poseiden Kaneohe Poseiden P-8A
    software.

6. Please waive fees.

Reason:

Possible deployment of uncertified/uncertifiable
safety-critical avionics software by the US Navy
resulting from c/c++ system vendors
misrepresenting the applicability of their
technology in embedded controller
software/hardware systems?

This knowledge is in the public and US Navy's interest?

7. Please send these documents within
20 business days, as the statute requires.

Sincerely,




William Harris Payne
Boeing 767 Software Certification Policy 1980 coauthor
Sandia National Laboratories Albuquerque, retired
13015 Calle de Sandias NE
Albuquerque, New Mexico
87111 505-292-7037
bpayne37@comcast.net
https://www.prosefights2.org/irp2023/usnavy2.htm












Notes
FOIA Experience: Reference 7.

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12/7/23.

US Navy FOIA contact ChristopherJulka 12/3/23 phone message audio.

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Boeing software module/subroutine/procedure size converstation with
former two-time editor-in-chief of IEEE Software and one time editor-in-chief of IEEE computer and Naval Postgraduate School retired Computer Science Repartment chairman, Ted G Lewis, 2019
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Ted G Lewis bios.

Naval Postgraduate School.

Requester